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		<title>by: David</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1896</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There are a number of points, so:
1. It's not just England.  I am Australian - I always cheer when England loses.  But I watched the Mexico-Portugal game (with a Mexican friend), the Holland-Portugal game and the France-Portugal game, and in each one of them I wanted to punch Ronaldo in the face.  So it is not just England fans, and it is not just ronaldo we hate.  It is football fans, and it is the whole Portuguese team.
2. England simply aren't very good.  You played to about your level.  It's not a matter that you don't have any good strikers and can't threaten the goal - neither could Italy or portugal, and see how far they went.  But you don't have the nous to stay in matches.  You keep wanting to play football when you should accept you're just not good enough.  When you can't play football, learn to defend.
3. I hate saying this, but England can win the World Cup.  This doesn't contradict the above post.  You could win it, and then wish you hadn't.  The way England could win the World Cup is by copying Brazil of 94 or Italy of this year.  Actually, England is in a very similar situation to Italy.  You have Rooney and Gerrard alone who can play attacking roles - there are no other competent attacking players.  But in A Cole and Terry you have decent defenders.  If you learnt to play like Italy (who, from the moment Materazzi was sent of v Australia, did not attack at all for the rest of the tournament) you can win.  Just rid yourself of the illusion that it is necessary to be able to play football to win a World Cup.
4. Henry - it is OK to hate Henry if you don't distinguish between a player exaggerating a foul that is there and inventing a foul that isn't.  Example 1 - Henry v carvalho.  He turns the defender, gets him going the wrong way, feels the boot on his leg, and goes down like a sack of sh1t.  Example 2 - C. Ronaldo v Gallas &amp;#38; Thuram - the ball is crossed in from the right, and Ronaldo jumps between the defenders - NOT attempting to win the ball, but simply to make contact.

What has made diving the second biggest problem at this World Cup has been teams like Portugal using it as their main attacking tactic.  It is not, as it has been, a way to wring advantage out of a situation the attack has broken down.  It is the attack itself.  Get close to a defender, throw yourself over his leg.

Oh, and the biggest dive I have ever seen, worse than C Ronaldo's, worse than any of Pires' - Michael Owen v Argentina, 2002.

If I was Fergie, I'd want to straighten both Rooney and Ronaldo out quickly.  But if I was Cristiano Ronaldo, I wouldn't want to play under Alex Ferguson for any longer than I actually have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of points, so:<br />
1. It&#8217;s not just England.  I am Australian - I always cheer when England loses.  But I watched the Mexico-Portugal game (with a Mexican friend), the Holland-Portugal game and the France-Portugal game, and in each one of them I wanted to punch Ronaldo in the face.  So it is not just England fans, and it is not just ronaldo we hate.  It is football fans, and it is the whole Portuguese team.<br />
2. England simply aren&#8217;t very good.  You played to about your level.  It&#8217;s not a matter that you don&#8217;t have any good strikers and can&#8217;t threaten the goal - neither could Italy or portugal, and see how far they went.  But you don&#8217;t have the nous to stay in matches.  You keep wanting to play football when you should accept you&#8217;re just not good enough.  When you can&#8217;t play football, learn to defend.<br />
3. I hate saying this, but England can win the World Cup.  This doesn&#8217;t contradict the above post.  You could win it, and then wish you hadn&#8217;t.  The way England could win the World Cup is by copying Brazil of 94 or Italy of this year.  Actually, England is in a very similar situation to Italy.  You have Rooney and Gerrard alone who can play attacking roles - there are no other competent attacking players.  But in A Cole and Terry you have decent defenders.  If you learnt to play like Italy (who, from the moment Materazzi was sent of v Australia, did not attack at all for the rest of the tournament) you can win.  Just rid yourself of the illusion that it is necessary to be able to play football to win a World Cup.<br />
4. Henry - it is OK to hate Henry if you don&#8217;t distinguish between a player exaggerating a foul that is there and inventing a foul that isn&#8217;t.  Example 1 - Henry v carvalho.  He turns the defender, gets him going the wrong way, feels the boot on his leg, and goes down like a sack of sh1t.  Example 2 - C. Ronaldo v Gallas &amp; Thuram - the ball is crossed in from the right, and Ronaldo jumps between the defenders - NOT attempting to win the ball, but simply to make contact.</p>
<p>What has made diving the second biggest problem at this World Cup has been teams like Portugal using it as their main attacking tactic.  It is not, as it has been, a way to wring advantage out of a situation the attack has broken down.  It is the attack itself.  Get close to a defender, throw yourself over his leg.</p>
<p>Oh, and the biggest dive I have ever seen, worse than C Ronaldo&#8217;s, worse than any of Pires&#8217; - Michael Owen v Argentina, 2002.</p>
<p>If I was Fergie, I&#8217;d want to straighten both Rooney and Ronaldo out quickly.  But if I was Cristiano Ronaldo, I wouldn&#8217;t want to play under Alex Ferguson for any longer than I actually have to.
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		<title>by: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1838</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wrong link in my previous post. Here's the one I've mentioned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7itYZbad9B0&amp;#38;eurl=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong link in my previous post. Here&#8217;s the one I&#8217;ve mentioned</p>
<p><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7itYZbad9B0&amp;eurl=' rel='nofollow'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7itYZbad9B0&amp;eurl=</a>
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		<title>by: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1837</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>While England insists on blamming others for its own weaknesses, I'm affraid the quarters will be as far as it gets, in any competition.

I am not amazed to see this ridiculous campaign, lead by papers like The Sun. What surprises me, is seeing BBC falling into the same trap. I can only laugh, watching thugs like Shearer condemning other player's attitudes, when everyone knows he tried to fake penalties dozens of times in his career, and the same trying to get other team's players sent out.

Ronaldo is an amazing player, and if you can be sure of one thing, when you go and see a game of his, is that you will undoublty see an artist, a predestined in the pitch, like you will never see another in many years to come. For Ronaldo, just passing the ball would be a waste of his talent. When he learns to be even more objective, and run to the goal, rather than just along the line, he will become one of the best players ever, if not the best of all times.

For the football fans, and the ones who don't let themselves be side-tracked by silly stories, I recommend watching the following video, in a display of Ronaldo's magic and perfume. Ronaldo is an arrogant player in the pitch, but it could not be anydifferent than that. If I was him, I'd be &quot;laughing and rolling on the floor&quot;, everytime I'd pass the defender yet again, using one of the dozens tricks he's got in his portfolio.

http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While England insists on blamming others for its own weaknesses, I&#8217;m affraid the quarters will be as far as it gets, in any competition.</p>
<p>I am not amazed to see this ridiculous campaign, lead by papers like The Sun. What surprises me, is seeing BBC falling into the same trap. I can only laugh, watching thugs like Shearer condemning other player&#8217;s attitudes, when everyone knows he tried to fake penalties dozens of times in his career, and the same trying to get other team&#8217;s players sent out.</p>
<p>Ronaldo is an amazing player, and if you can be sure of one thing, when you go and see a game of his, is that you will undoublty see an artist, a predestined in the pitch, like you will never see another in many years to come. For Ronaldo, just passing the ball would be a waste of his talent. When he learns to be even more objective, and run to the goal, rather than just along the line, he will become one of the best players ever, if not the best of all times.</p>
<p>For the football fans, and the ones who don&#8217;t let themselves be side-tracked by silly stories, I recommend watching the following video, in a display of Ronaldo&#8217;s magic and perfume. Ronaldo is an arrogant player in the pitch, but it could not be anydifferent than that. If I was him, I&#8217;d be &#8220;laughing and rolling on the floor&#8221;, everytime I&#8217;d pass the defender yet again, using one of the dozens tricks he&#8217;s got in his portfolio.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/</a>
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		<title>by: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1816</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1816</guid>
					<description>Too right!!

why single out ronaldo??? the portugal team all dive so will not have a go at them??

ronaldo didnt even wave the imaginary card - just pointing out it was a foul. he did kick the guys bollocks.

i am very very surprised no one has had any sort of go at rooney. the BBC pundits are so unprofessional. almost condorning physical violence and encouraging the booing against him. no mention about rooney and him losing his temper again.

what about going on about Henry for his terrible play-acting.....

its just cause england got knocked out and have to blame someone, we cant just except we didnt play well enough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too right!!</p>
<p>why single out ronaldo??? the portugal team all dive so will not have a go at them??</p>
<p>ronaldo didnt even wave the imaginary card - just pointing out it was a foul. he did kick the guys bollocks.</p>
<p>i am very very surprised no one has had any sort of go at rooney. the BBC pundits are so unprofessional. almost condorning physical violence and encouraging the booing against him. no mention about rooney and him losing his temper again.</p>
<p>what about going on about Henry for his terrible play-acting&#8230;..</p>
<p>its just cause england got knocked out and have to blame someone, we cant just except we didnt play well enough
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		<title>by: bellyjaby</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1815</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Just back to Gus J's point about Ronaldo at the top:
&quot;But for all his skills as a footballer, he really does not represent one admirable human quality. He manages to take his arrogant, smug and selfish approach and really take being annoying onto new heights.&quot;
I feel the need to point out that all this can be said of Wayne Rooney, sadly with the addition of the word violent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just back to Gus J&#8217;s point about Ronaldo at the top:<br />
&#8220;But for all his skills as a footballer, he really does not represent one admirable human quality. He manages to take his arrogant, smug and selfish approach and really take being annoying onto new heights.&#8221;<br />
I feel the need to point out that all this can be said of Wayne Rooney, sadly with the addition of the word violent.
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		<title>by: The man who can....</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1811</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 18:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If it's not Urs Meier or Diego Simone the it's Cristiano Ronaldo or Sven. It surely can't be the players can it? Is that the reason England really can't get past a quarter final? These Sky TV created 'star footballers' will never be blamed, (unless, of course, they paly their club football in Germany.)

England have, and in my lifetime, have always had average players. In Rooney we have a chance, as we do with Gerrard, (both divers incidentally), the rest well forget it.

Lampard is a star with Makalele to do his dirty work, as is Terry with Gallas. A Cole is twice the player when playing with Henry and Pires. See a pttern emerging? England 'golden generation' is in fact a plastic generation. No quality and no class. 

Ronaldo didn't get Rooney sent off; Rooney did? Sven didn't miss the pens, that was the players. The reason England haven't got past a QF is that the players aren't good enough. Forget what tossers like Hansen, Shearer, and all of Sky Sports tell you, if every foriegner left English football you'd see how poor English players really are. If Ronlado leaves, it's a loss for the English game. (And that's from someone who can't stand the man, but rates the player.) Does Henry dive? Well, if he does, (and whilst all players do Henry is miles better than most), is he any worse than J Cole, Gerrard or Rooney? Why are the English immune from criticism? 

Face the facts, England barely played 45 minutes of good football at the World Cup. They didn't deserve to even get to QF. But why spoil a good scapegoat story with the truth? You know you can't handle it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s not Urs Meier or Diego Simone the it&#8217;s Cristiano Ronaldo or Sven. It surely can&#8217;t be the players can it? Is that the reason England really can&#8217;t get past a quarter final? These Sky TV created &#8217;star footballers&#8217; will never be blamed, (unless, of course, they paly their club football in Germany.)</p>
<p>England have, and in my lifetime, have always had average players. In Rooney we have a chance, as we do with Gerrard, (both divers incidentally), the rest well forget it.</p>
<p>Lampard is a star with Makalele to do his dirty work, as is Terry with Gallas. A Cole is twice the player when playing with Henry and Pires. See a pttern emerging? England &#8216;golden generation&#8217; is in fact a plastic generation. No quality and no class. </p>
<p>Ronaldo didn&#8217;t get Rooney sent off; Rooney did? Sven didn&#8217;t miss the pens, that was the players. The reason England haven&#8217;t got past a QF is that the players aren&#8217;t good enough. Forget what tossers like Hansen, Shearer, and all of Sky Sports tell you, if every foriegner left English football you&#8217;d see how poor English players really are. If Ronlado leaves, it&#8217;s a loss for the English game. (And that&#8217;s from someone who can&#8217;t stand the man, but rates the player.) Does Henry dive? Well, if he does, (and whilst all players do Henry is miles better than most), is he any worse than J Cole, Gerrard or Rooney? Why are the English immune from criticism? </p>
<p>Face the facts, England barely played 45 minutes of good football at the World Cup. They didn&#8217;t deserve to even get to QF. But why spoil a good scapegoat story with the truth? You know you can&#8217;t handle it.
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		<title>by: robert</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1809</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>for me ronaldo is just like rooney except rooney is obviously english. rooney dives (just like against arsenal and i'm still pissed off about it) and he has violent tendencies which isn't surprising considering his dads a boxer!

and ronaldo dives a lot but isn't so much a violent player, but he is a sneaky arrogant person. but all footballers are arrogant - they don't reach the top by being nice. players just choose the way they conduct themselves on and off the pitch.

article is spot on about the passion - players should be willing to die for the team but what we got was a load of pathetic excuses yet again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for me ronaldo is just like rooney except rooney is obviously english. rooney dives (just like against arsenal and i&#8217;m still pissed off about it) and he has violent tendencies which isn&#8217;t surprising considering his dads a boxer!</p>
<p>and ronaldo dives a lot but isn&#8217;t so much a violent player, but he is a sneaky arrogant person. but all footballers are arrogant - they don&#8217;t reach the top by being nice. players just choose the way they conduct themselves on and off the pitch.</p>
<p>article is spot on about the passion - players should be willing to die for the team but what we got was a load of pathetic excuses yet again!
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		<title>by: Ed</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I still believe people's feelings have been inflated by the press. A top player, playing for his national team, has to be 100% concentrated on what he is doing. He is willing to die, to win that match. And he is 100% supporting his team mates. If the player from the other team, does what Rooney did, to one of your mates, the minimum you will do is ask the refereee to send him off! Can anyone, in conscience, disagree with this? This is what Ronaldo did.

I would understand the hate, if Ronaldo had commited that faul himself, against Rooney or any other player.

What we have been witnessing is simply unbelieavable. A player, already well known by its undiscipline, commits another insane act, and almost everyone falls into the press trap, blamming the player that asked for him to be sent off. How ironic could that be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still believe people&#8217;s feelings have been inflated by the press. A top player, playing for his national team, has to be 100% concentrated on what he is doing. He is willing to die, to win that match. And he is 100% supporting his team mates. If the player from the other team, does what Rooney did, to one of your mates, the minimum you will do is ask the refereee to send him off! Can anyone, in conscience, disagree with this? This is what Ronaldo did.</p>
<p>I would understand the hate, if Ronaldo had commited that faul himself, against Rooney or any other player.</p>
<p>What we have been witnessing is simply unbelieavable. A player, already well known by its undiscipline, commits another insane act, and almost everyone falls into the press trap, blamming the player that asked for him to be sent off. How ironic could that be?
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		<title>by: Wenger's Immortals</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>F*cking hell Mick good point - I had forgotten about Rooney's dive against Arsenal at OT, the chubby bastard!

LiveSoccer is spot on too. Ronaldo doesn't give a shit if England hate him - he'll have big teams like Milan, Real and Barca after him if he's available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F*cking hell Mick good point - I had forgotten about Rooney&#8217;s dive against Arsenal at OT, the chubby bastard!</p>
<p>LiveSoccer is spot on too. Ronaldo doesn&#8217;t give a shit if England hate him - he&#8217;ll have big teams like Milan, Real and Barca after him if he&#8217;s available.
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		<title>by: danny boy</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2006/07/06/ronaldo-hatred-well-over-the-top/#comment-1802</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>im on the internet all the time reading articles, its actually nice to hear what so many people have to say. But you talk absolute bollocks i could not, and dont think i have ever disagreed with anyone as much as i do you right now. Ronaldo is an absolute disgrace, im glad hes hated. At the end of the day he earns his money in this country why not show us a bit of respect, yeah sure he wants to beat us thats understandable, but to act like he did was a Shambolic. I hope he never plays in this country again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im on the internet all the time reading articles, its actually nice to hear what so many people have to say. But you talk absolute bollocks i could not, and dont think i have ever disagreed with anyone as much as i do you right now. Ronaldo is an absolute disgrace, im glad hes hated. At the end of the day he earns his money in this country why not show us a bit of respect, yeah sure he wants to beat us thats understandable, but to act like he did was a Shambolic. I hope he never plays in this country again.
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