Comments on: How Do Arsenal Recover From This 7 Day Disaster? http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/ Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:15:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: lawrence http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9541 Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:20:51 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9541 i have been a arsenal fan for 40 years and felt many emotions from watching Arsenal over the years. i feel sorry for people who cannot understand what drives us. they missed out on the highs, the pride, the joy, the overwhelming pleasure in watching a great football team (how people from that other north London club manage i really do not know!) but.... i find myself agreeing to the coments made by Gus J earlier. I am so sickened by the defeat to Blackburn. to have to accept that we lost to a team like that (they were absolutely dreadful) and that Hughes's unbelieveably negative tactics worked is asking a lot. plus a referee who was blantantly crooked. on top of losing to chelsea when we outplayed them for an hour, to be forced to watch the tow strikers against blackburn miss chance after chance when we knew henry would have got one..... of course, i will go one....there is always PSV and we all know next year we are going to be better, so many young great players....but right now i am sick as a shitload of parrots... i have been a arsenal fan for 40 years and felt many emotions from watching Arsenal over the years.
i feel sorry for people who cannot understand what drives us. they missed out on the highs, the pride, the joy, the overwhelming pleasure in watching a great football team (how people from that other north London club manage i really do not know!)
but…. i find myself agreeing to the coments made by Gus J earlier. I am so sickened by the defeat to Blackburn. to have to accept that we lost to a team like that (they were absolutely dreadful) and that Hughes’s unbelieveably negative tactics worked is asking a lot. plus a referee who was blantantly crooked. on top of losing to chelsea when we outplayed them for an hour, to be forced to watch the tow strikers against blackburn miss chance after chance when we knew henry would have got one…..
of course, i will go one….there is always PSV and we all know next year we are going to be better, so many young great players….but right now i am sick as a shitload of parrots…

]]> by: DeiseGooner http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9503 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:15:03 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9503 Arsenal were wasteful in front of goal and only have themselves to blame. The penalty decisions shouldn't even come into it if we had put away our chances. Pretty football but no end product. It has become the story of the season. Needs to change for next season. Enuff of the transition i say !! Arsenal were wasteful in front of goal and only have themselves to blame. The penalty decisions shouldn’t even come into it if we had put away our chances. Pretty football but no end product. It has become the story of the season. Needs to change for next season. Enuff of the transition i say !!

]]> by: Phillip Three http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9488 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:59:52 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9488 The only thing missing was Flamini! Not to mention about eleven other players. I am now convinced that AW does not believe in strategies or tactics. He believes in style of play. And that style of play can overcome any strategy or tactic. It is probably true. But surely you can react to a team that is trying to suffocate the midfield. BR knew they could stifle Arsenal if they could squeeze the midfield. The strategic solution would be to drop back a striker or move up a defender. The AW solution is that quick movement, interplay, passing and moving triangles can overcome any close marking in the centre of the pitch. It is just that today Arsenal couldn't do it enough to mount a campaign on BR goal. I think sometimes the boys get intoxicated with their own brilliance and forget about going for the jugular. Like a Kung-Fu expert you only need one open shot to strike the jugular and BR did that. I can nearly agree with Hughes when he said, 'they deserved it.' All over the world if you can stifle the midfield and nullify scoring opportunities and have one strike late in the match to win the game then that is deserving. It doesn't matter too much to talk about referees. But the incessant tactical fouls were a blatant ploy to disrupt Arsenal's fluidity. The ploy was proven with fouls spread about the BR team and when Tugay was substituted by Dunn who continued with the cynical fouls. The only thing missing was Flamini! Not to mention about eleven other players.

I am now convinced that AW does not believe in strategies or tactics. He believes in style of play. And that style of play can overcome any strategy or tactic. It is probably true. But surely you can react to a team that is trying to suffocate the midfield. BR knew they could stifle Arsenal if they could squeeze the midfield. The strategic solution would be to drop back a striker or move up a defender. The AW solution is that quick movement, interplay, passing and moving triangles can overcome any close marking in the centre of the pitch. It is just that today Arsenal couldn’t do it enough to mount a campaign on BR goal.

I think sometimes the boys get intoxicated with their own brilliance and forget about going for the jugular. Like a Kung-Fu expert you only need one open shot to strike the jugular and BR did that. I can nearly agree with Hughes when he said, ‘they deserved it.’ All over the world if you can stifle the midfield and nullify scoring opportunities and have one strike late in the match to win the game then that is deserving.

It doesn’t matter too much to talk about referees. But the incessant tactical fouls were a blatant ploy to disrupt Arsenal’s fluidity. The ploy was proven with fouls spread about the BR team and when Tugay was substituted by Dunn who continued with the cynical fouls.

]]> by: mr serge http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9482 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:11:26 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9482 i agree with most of the things you say gerry we need a top class keeper the rest of the top four have and probably 6 or 7 other clubs all have better keepers than us,seaman used to be worth 15-20 points a season for us,also after Henry and Van Pursie we have no one who can put the ball away, including adebayor we let 4 experienced players go last season and we have not replaced them, the kids are great and in a couple of years we will have the best team in the league,but right now we are not cutting the mustard,basically we are a top 4 team that plays the pretiest footie, the experience of the last week will only make us better, i am looking forward to a bright future for our boys i agree with most of the things you say gerry we need a top class keeper the rest of the top four have and probably 6 or 7 other clubs all have better keepers than us,seaman used to be worth 15-20 points a season for us,also after Henry and Van Pursie we have no one who can put the ball away, including adebayor we let 4 experienced players go last season and we have not replaced them, the kids are great and in a couple of years we will have the best team in the league,but right now we are not cutting the mustard,basically we are a top 4 team that plays the pretiest footie, the experience of the last week will only make us better, i am looking forward to a bright future for our boys

]]> by: Gerry Gooner http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9480 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:30:45 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9480 The problem we have is that we keep harping on about the pretty football- every game we lose we give ourselves the moral high ground with a big 'Yeah but we played great football'. Scoring goals is what wins games. Sooner or later we need silverware to keep players such as fabregas- the domestic cups represent our best chance becuase we are not ruthless enough, to ideological and too inconsistent to challenge for the league for the next 2-3 years at least FACT. This season our senior players have let us down not the youngsters Lehmann- behaving like the nutcase that opposing fans say he is Henry- not up to his standards this season Hleb & Rosicky (alot of injuries)- for every good game they have they have two where they are MIA Tuore- good but not up to his usual Gilberto and Almunia are the only senior players to have any credit so far this season for their performances irrespective or ability. We have had a ridiculous amount of injuries this season and to be honest I am beginning to question the conditioning of the players- many injuries appear not to have occurred during matches but seem to be announced by Wenger when nnone of us reaised they existed. The injuries to Henry, Gallas and Rosicky raise alot of questions for me. Similar to Fabregas last year and the previous year we are now resting our midfield on the shoulders of a relatively inexperienced youngster in denilson who is fabulous but tires enormously after about 70 mins. As for tonight- Senderos ain't no right back- why and not Gallas? In fact as time progresses he is slipping in to Cygan fourth choice centre back slot for me. Oh yeah thought Hleb was as shocking as Graham Poll tonight. Baptista is not up to it- we need forwards who score goals- we have enough attackers. The problem we have is that we keep harping on about the pretty football- every game we lose we give ourselves the moral high ground with a big ‘Yeah but we played great football’. Scoring goals is what wins games. Sooner or later we need silverware to keep players such as fabregas- the domestic cups represent our best chance becuase we are not ruthless enough, to ideological and too inconsistent to challenge for the league for the next 2-3 years at least FACT.
This season our senior players have let us down not the youngsters
Lehmann- behaving like the nutcase that opposing fans say he is
Henry- not up to his standards this season
Hleb & Rosicky (alot of injuries)- for every good game they have they have two where they are MIA
Tuore- good but not up to his usual
Gilberto and Almunia are the only senior players to have any credit so far this season for their performances irrespective or ability.

We have had a ridiculous amount of injuries this season and to be honest I am beginning to question the conditioning of the players- many injuries appear not to have occurred during matches but seem to be announced by Wenger when nnone of us reaised they existed. The injuries to Henry, Gallas and Rosicky raise alot of questions for me.

Similar to Fabregas last year and the previous year we are now resting our midfield on the shoulders of a relatively inexperienced youngster in denilson who is fabulous but tires enormously after about 70 mins.

As for tonight- Senderos ain’t no right back- why and not Gallas? In fact as time progresses he is slipping in to Cygan fourth choice centre back slot for me.

Oh yeah thought Hleb was as shocking as Graham Poll tonight. Baptista is not up to it- we need forwards who score goals- we have enough attackers.

]]> by: cor1172 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9479 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:26:28 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9479 ah well things can only get better i checked the net earlier and psv got the livin bejaysus knocked outa them by some bird/team called breda 3 .0 also something that might cheer you up is that reyes is getting the boot from real madrid now i know that might mean we have to give the beast back but wouldnt it be fun if we had a feeder club were we could send him to like in................turkmenistan ah well things can only get better i checked the net earlier and psv got the livin bejaysus knocked outa them by some bird/team called breda 3 .0 also something that might cheer you up is that reyes is getting the boot from real madrid now i know that might mean we have to give the beast back but wouldnt it be fun if we had a feeder club were we could send him to like in…………….turkmenistan

]]> by: hatman http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9477 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:17:25 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9477 We can't always rely on penalties to win games. At the end of the day we are not putting away our opportunities in open play. Wenger also fielded a second string team once again. We had no options up front and I think some fans will be getting perturbed cause at the end of the day your paying to see the best team out there. Also, Poll- what a dick - Dunn gets booked and then commits a professional foul by tugging back a player and doesn't see red- three minutes later he fouls again and is still on the park. I just don't get it. How many fouls did bloody toogay commit? We can’t always rely on penalties to win games. At the end of the day we are not putting away our opportunities in open play. Wenger also fielded a second string team once again. We had no options up front and I think some fans will be getting perturbed cause at the end of the day your paying to see the best team out there. Also, Poll- what a dick - Dunn gets booked and then commits a professional foul by tugging back a player and doesn’t see red- three minutes later he fouls again and is still on the park. I just don’t get it. How many fouls did bloody toogay commit?

]]> by: Fishpie http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9473 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:13:37 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9473 The thing is Wenger has instilled in Arsenal an aspiration and an ideal of perfection. And unfortunately this is the most difficult trick in football to pull off, especially week in week out. To do it you need 1) the best players and 2) the best players to be in form all the time. In Senderos we have an ordinary player. In Henry, we have the best player but he is not in form. Other teams tend to have a lot of ordinary players but they don't attempt perfection. They attempt easier dives fron the diving board and succeed. Bottom line is, if we want to play utopian football, we need utopian footballers and we can't afford them. Wenger either needs to buy the best there is (replacing Senderos with a proven international defender to supplement Toure and Gallas, buying Eto'o replacing Aliadiare and Baptista)or he needs to get realistic, buy a genuine ball winning holding midfielder to play alongside Gilberto, and get his current squad to do what it takes rather than do the impossible. I am an Arsenal fan raised on success and victory, not a whining Spurs fan raised on "yeah but we play better football than you" The thing is Wenger has instilled in Arsenal an aspiration and an ideal of perfection. And unfortunately this is the most difficult trick in football to pull off, especially week in week out. To do it you need 1) the best players and 2) the best players to be in form all the time. In Senderos we have an ordinary player. In Henry, we have the best player but he is not in form. Other teams tend to have a lot of ordinary players but they don’t attempt perfection. They attempt easier dives fron the diving board and succeed.

Bottom line is, if we want to play utopian football, we need utopian footballers and we can’t afford them. Wenger either needs to buy the best there is (replacing Senderos with a proven international defender to supplement Toure and Gallas, buying Eto’o replacing Aliadiare and Baptista)or he needs to get realistic, buy a genuine ball winning holding midfielder to play alongside Gilberto, and get his current squad to do what it takes rather than do the impossible.

I am an Arsenal fan raised on success and victory, not a whining Spurs fan raised on “yeah but we play better football than you”

]]> by: cor1172 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9471 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:09:49 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9471 id rather be an arsenal fan than a blackburn any day,im the first to admit it was a classy goal by a classy player but haven seen the post match interview and hearing mr sparky sayin how his team of flamboyant world beaters deserve it ,well that makes me puke,hmm the stats show in 180 mins they had 3 shots,2 and a half technically if derbyshires cross shot at the emirates counts,the attendances at ewood would also back my theory up low attendances becauuse of high entrance cost because of high wages for low quality,form is temporary class is permenent,ps i seem to recall last week some mad german team playin for a nil all draw and seein mark hughes spouting some bs about it not bein a spectacle to watch never fear we shall return better than ever id rather be an arsenal fan than a blackburn any day,im the first to admit it was a classy goal by a classy player but haven seen the post match interview and hearing mr sparky sayin how his team of flamboyant world beaters deserve it ,well that makes me puke,hmm the stats show in 180 mins they had 3 shots,2 and a half technically if derbyshires cross shot at the emirates counts,the attendances at ewood would also back my theory up low attendances becauuse of high entrance cost because of high wages for low quality,form is temporary class is permenent,ps i seem to recall last week some mad german team playin for a nil all draw and seein mark hughes spouting some bs about it not bein a spectacle to watch never fear we shall return better than ever

]]> by: peter wilday http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9469 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:05:18 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/02/28/how-do-arsenal-recover-from-this-7-day-disaster/#comment-9469 We must get rid of Pascal Cygan 2. I am refering of course to Senderos. He is just not up to the task of being Arsenal standard. He cost us tonight by allowing Mcarthy room to cut in on the right, and cost us Sunday by allowing Drogba to get in front of him for a free header! Same as he was muscled out in Charity Shield and first league game last season by same player. He just does not cut the mustard! He's had his chances and must be moved on! We must get rid of Pascal Cygan 2.
I am refering of course to Senderos. He is just not up to the task of being Arsenal standard.
He cost us tonight by allowing Mcarthy room to cut in on the right, and cost us Sunday by allowing Drogba to get in front of him for a free header!
Same as he was muscled out in Charity Shield and first league game last season by same player.
He just does not cut the mustard! He’s had his chances and must be moved on!

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