Comments on: Was David Dein’s Exit Down To Arsene Wenger? http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/ Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:53:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: rico http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11973 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:07:47 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11973 well - how spooky, i have this conversation with my partner this morning, i think the boss knew that the end for DD was near, i also believe that to the press he remains loyal to DD with his comments - second half yesterday was the best we have been for a while and against what is now a good spurs side - i dont think all is doom and gloom, to the contrary, i think things are going to improve and very very quickly.. just watched Bentdner - awesome header muamba - not bad, but i think he will leave doyle - the goalie we have been linked with today - outstanding and would be a great catch - lets hope if muamba goes, doyle is coming our way in the deal - and now unless something from Mars lands and makes us lose the last three games and concede many goals - champs league is secure - roll on next season - i for one cant wait. and come on newcastle - beat or draw with the russians.............. well - how spooky, i have this conversation with my partner this morning, i think the boss knew that the end for DD was near, i also believe that to the press he remains loyal to DD with his comments - second half yesterday was the best we have been for a while and against what is now a good spurs side - i dont think all is doom and gloom, to the contrary, i think things are going to improve and very very quickly..

just watched Bentdner - awesome header
muamba - not bad, but i think he will leave
doyle - the goalie we have been linked with today - outstanding and would be a great catch - lets hope if muamba goes, doyle is coming our way in the deal -

and now unless something from Mars lands and makes us lose the last three games and concede many goals - champs league is secure - roll on next season - i for one cant wait.

and come on newcastle - beat or draw with the russians…………..

]]> by: Quartz http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11916 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:54:55 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11916 Koenke will launch a takeover bid for sure. There is no other reason he would buy shares the way he is buying them. He is buying them every week. He is shrewd enough a man, he owns four sports teams and builds shopping malls and is married into the millionaire Walton family. He will know that he can make money fromrsenal, but also that success on the pitch is integral to him making money from the club. What matters is that Wenger: 1.) Learns to defend from set pieces. 2.) Get Henry and Van Persie fit. 3.) Bring in another wide man to help slower thanhe was Freddie and still learning Theo compete with Hleb and Rosicky. The rest is above our heads. But if we do not do these above things, e will not win the league again for ages. As fans, we CAN make our displeasure of the manager known. But having been a legend, let's give Wenger more time. Koenke will launch a takeover bid for sure. There is no other reason he would buy shares the way he is buying them. He is buying them every week.
He is shrewd enough a man, he owns four sports teams and builds shopping malls and is married into the millionaire Walton family.
He will know that he can make money fromrsenal, but also that success on the pitch is integral to him making money from the club.
What matters is that Wenger:

1.) Learns to defend from set pieces.
2.) Get Henry and Van Persie fit.
3.) Bring in another wide man to help slower thanhe was Freddie and still learning Theo compete with Hleb and Rosicky.

The rest is above our heads.
But if we do not do these above things, e will not win the league again for ages. As fans, we CAN make our displeasure of the manager known.

But having been a legend, let’s give Wenger more time.

]]> by: Arsenal Analysis http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11871 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:51:31 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11871 Wenger Holds the key to Arsenal’s Doors. In our opinion Wenger has now become the most important person in this struggle for power. He will undoubtedly be coveted by both suitors to remain with the club. And therefore he alone can help tip the balance one the way or another. And he should! Wenger Holds the key to Arsenal’s Doors.
In our opinion Wenger has now become the most important person in this struggle for power. He will undoubtedly be coveted by both suitors to remain with the club. And therefore he alone can help tip the balance one the way or another. And he should!

]]> by: SW16Gooner http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11868 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:03:46 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11868 I have found the blogs and other Arsenal sites far more comprehensive and well-considered than the sensational hysterics in our daily papers! We cannot know for certain what is going on in Wenger's mind, but he is and always has been, an honourable man. If he doesn't want to commit himself to a comment that he is unsure about he just won't discuss it. Likewise, if he has a strong view or belief he is not slow in stating it. But he certainly wouldn't just repeat the words of someone else, even if that certain someone IS David Dein! If he has publicly stated that he is against a foreign buyer then that's what I believe. I respect him enough to trust his opinion. And remember, as BG says, how do we know Kroenke would have waltzed into the board-room with an open cheque-book and a shopping list with E'to, Torres or even Ronaldinho at the top of the last? We know very little about the man. Maybe we ought to look into the sporting involvements he has in the US before we make claims as to his true intentions at the Emirates. After all, he may intend to invest, just to make money - as has been stated before - and not necessarily to invest copious amounts of american dosh, which now at $2 to the £1 and falling would become less and less copious anyway! Finally, the current board members are multi-millionaires, true. But when they put money in the club, does anyone honestly believe that they just write a cheque with their name on it? Of course not! That money will come from from assets sold or from smaller companies that they own, as after all, that is where their money lies as such investments are how they maintain their wealth. Not in a shoebox under their bed! So, stating that they have put nothing into the club, in financial terms, is a little naive. So, at the end of it all, Wenger will stay to see his future teams come to fruition. And David Dein and Kroenke? No-one knows, not even Ian Wright! I have found the blogs and other Arsenal sites far more comprehensive and well-considered than the sensational hysterics in our daily papers! We cannot know for certain what is going on in Wenger’s mind, but he is and always has been, an honourable man. If he doesn’t want to commit himself to a comment that he is unsure about he just won’t discuss it. Likewise, if he has a strong view or belief he is not slow in stating it. But he certainly wouldn’t just repeat the words of someone else, even if that certain someone IS David Dein! If he has publicly stated that he is against a foreign buyer then that’s what I believe. I respect him enough to trust his opinion. And remember, as BG says, how do we know Kroenke would have waltzed into the board-room with an open cheque-book and a shopping list with E’to, Torres or even Ronaldinho at the top of the last? We know very little about the man. Maybe we ought to look into the sporting involvements he has in the US before we make claims as to his true intentions at the Emirates. After all, he may intend to invest, just to make money - as has been stated before - and not necessarily to invest copious amounts of american dosh, which now at $2 to the £1 and falling would become less and less copious anyway! Finally, the current board members are multi-millionaires, true. But when they put money in the club, does anyone honestly believe that they just write a cheque with their name on it? Of course not! That money will come from from assets sold or from smaller companies that they own, as after all, that is where their money lies as such investments are how they maintain their wealth. Not in a shoebox under their bed! So, stating that they have put nothing into the club, in financial terms, is a little naive. So, at the end of it all, Wenger will stay to see his future teams come to fruition. And David Dein and Kroenke? No-one knows, not even Ian Wright!

]]> by: limpar http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11809 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:50:09 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11809 we can finally get nachos at the grove. boo! we can finally get nachos at the grove. boo!

]]> by: bring back don howe http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11806 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:40:02 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11806 good article stevus, i too remember from 78 to now, the spuds were the better team with villa and ardilles ,hoddle etc and we had the hankins ,marriner then losing brady and stapleton. but like you said, dein came along and don howe blooded the youngsters and while ive been following THE Arsenal we've won every domestic trophy and got to all the 3 major european finals losing 2 and winning 1 of them. footballs changed now, the greatest team to come from these shores(liverpool) have realised that 18 years since there last title could not compete with arsenal and united and now chelsea too.they sold out to the americans, even utd with there mass resources and gate reciepts realised that chelsea blew them away financially and sold out too. so if we stand still we will fall further and furher behind one thing hill wood said made me laugh, "We are all being seduced that the Americans will ride into town with pots of cash for new players. It simply isn't the case. They only see an opportunity to make money. They know nothing about our football, and we don't want these types involved." so £4.50 for a hot dog and £2.70 for a tea bag in a plastic cup and the highest priced tickets in the prem is not about making money then? good article stevus, i too remember from 78 to now,
the spuds were the better team with villa and ardilles ,hoddle etc and we had the hankins ,marriner then losing brady and stapleton.
but like you said, dein came along and don howe blooded the youngsters and while ive been following THE Arsenal we’ve won every domestic trophy and got to all the 3 major european finals losing 2 and winning 1 of them.
footballs changed now, the greatest team to come from these shores(liverpool) have realised that 18 years since there last title could not compete with arsenal and united and now chelsea too.they sold out to the americans, even utd with there mass resources and gate reciepts realised that chelsea blew them away financially and sold out too.
so if we stand still we will fall further and furher behind
one thing hill wood said made me laugh,
“We are all being seduced that the Americans will ride into town with pots of cash for new players. It simply isn’t the case. They only see an opportunity to make money. They know nothing about our football, and we don’t want these types involved.”
so £4.50 for a hot dog and £2.70 for a tea bag in a plastic cup and the highest priced tickets in the prem is not about making money then?

]]> by: Norway Gooner http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11805 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:33:25 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11805 As I see it, Wenger and the board does not want Kroenke to take over the club. Dein went behind the board and probably also Arsenes back when he started dealing with Kroenke without telling the others. My guess is that Wenger is lettting Dein have his legacy, but I am quite sure he is shocked at what Dein did. If I am wrong and Dein let Wenger know he dealt with Kroenke directly, then Wenger is in on it and we for sure will have opera for quite some time. I think it is pretty unlikely thou... As I see it, Wenger and the board does not want Kroenke to take over the club. Dein went behind the board and probably also Arsenes back when he started dealing with Kroenke without telling the others.

My guess is that Wenger is lettting Dein have his legacy, but I am quite sure he is shocked at what Dein did.

If I am wrong and Dein let Wenger know he dealt with Kroenke directly, then Wenger is in on it and we for sure will have opera for quite some time. I think it is pretty unlikely thou…

]]> by: steve http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11793 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:47:20 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11793 what's the worry?it doesn't matter who owns the club,they are all run as businesses......i don't care what happens off the pitch..?.i'd support em if someone sold the ground the team and the players and we dropped down a few leagues.i wonder if some of you would? what’s the worry?it doesn’t matter who owns the club,they are all run as businesses……i don’t care what happens off the pitch..?.i’d support em if someone sold the ground the team and the players and we dropped down a few leagues.i wonder if some of you would?

]]> by: Freddie http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11790 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:06:02 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11790 If Hill-Wood, Edelman, Nina B-S and Fiszman have so much money they don't need Stan Kroenke's millions (which is what Hill-Wood said) maybe they would like to invest some of their millions in the club so that Arsene has some money to spend in the transfer window, because otherwise there won't be any money for players. Who'd you prefer: (1) Dein plus Kroenke plus Arsene or (2) Hill-Wood (sold out long ago), Edelman (accountant), Nina (director of football?) and Fiszman (tax exile retiree)? Hopefully, Hill-Wood et al will drop the anti-foreign attitude (they do know Arsene is French don't they?) and sell their shares. If Hill-Wood, Edelman, Nina B-S and Fiszman have so much money they don’t need Stan Kroenke’s millions (which is what Hill-Wood said) maybe they would like to invest some of their millions in the club so that Arsene has some money to spend in the transfer window, because otherwise there won’t be any money for players.

Who’d you prefer: (1) Dein plus Kroenke plus Arsene or (2) Hill-Wood (sold out long ago), Edelman (accountant), Nina (director of football?) and Fiszman (tax exile retiree)? Hopefully, Hill-Wood et al will drop the anti-foreign attitude (they do know Arsene is French don’t they?) and sell their shares.

]]> by: Andy http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11788 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:01:09 +0000 http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/04/20/was-david-deins-exit-down-to-arsene-wenger/#comment-11788 With regards to "injecting cash" into the club, can you be absolutely certain that he won't? How much cash have the current directors put into the club? Looking at the accounts over the last 10 years I can't see any money coming into the club from the shareholders. With regards to “injecting cash” into the club, can you be absolutely certain that he won’t?

How much cash have the current directors put into the club? Looking at the accounts over the last 10 years I can’t see any money coming into the club from the shareholders.

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