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	<title>Comments on: Ultra Negative Liverpool Still Can&#8217;t Stop Arsenal</title>
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		<title>by: Fab</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20689</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Liverpool were playing Anti-football where as Arsenal were playing Total football..!!</description>
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		<title>by: Carloz Goonerosa</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20675</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>whatever, your comments are amusing and smacking of someone with too much envy of gooners .. you lurk around a gooner website, and make silly little threats about us not winning anything come end of season.  The season is made up of little battles like yesterdays between us and liverpool, this article is commenting on that single battle, and all you can come up with is goading us that we will not win anything.  That suggests you are seriously lacking in grey matter, or are too blinded by jealousy/hatred/whatever which would suggest that you are a spuds and not a scouser ... despite yesterday's tangle, gooners and scousers enjoy a mutually good relationship unlike between us and your spuds, or between us and manure.

So, go cry in your coffee for your team ... ramos would probably not save you this season, and we may have to sing for you at the end of the season: 'we'll meet again, dont know know when .. dont know how .....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever, your comments are amusing and smacking of someone with too much envy of gooners .. you lurk around a gooner website, and make silly little threats about us not winning anything come end of season.  The season is made up of little battles like yesterdays between us and liverpool, this article is commenting on that single battle, and all you can come up with is goading us that we will not win anything.  That suggests you are seriously lacking in grey matter, or are too blinded by jealousy/hatred/whatever which would suggest that you are a spuds and not a scouser &#8230; despite yesterday&#8217;s tangle, gooners and scousers enjoy a mutually good relationship unlike between us and your spuds, or between us and manure.</p>
<p>So, go cry in your coffee for your team &#8230; ramos would probably not save you this season, and we may have to sing for you at the end of the season: &#8216;we&#8217;ll meet again, dont know know when .. dont know how &#8230;..&#8221;
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		<title>by: G</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20671</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20671</guid>
					<description>Mr Neutral, are you serious? 
Let me tell you why Arsenal only managed to 'nick' a goal in the last few minutes (although they hit the post twice and missed two open goals so anyone with a brain can argue that Rafa's 'great plan to beat arsenal' actually wasn't that successful and more down to luck)

It is because Liverpool placed TEN MEN BEHIND THE BALL most of the game, that's why. Quite simple isn't it? If Liverpool had actually tried to come forward and maybe even used their fullbacks now and then they would have been nailed. If Arsenal had scored first it would have been an interesting match..
So don't sit their smug in the belief Liverpool had loads of better chances. Hello? My nan could have great chances against arsenal if they sent EVERYONE forward including the centrebacks! We had bloody Gallas and Toure dribbling in your box! How many times did your central defenders even get out of their own box? Totally pathetic for the home team.

Either way the Arsenal supporters can sleep soundly in the knowledge that their team embarrassed an obviously very frightened and thus negative Liverpool team. And Rafa's comment was funny - that he set out to stop Arsenal playing on the counter... on the counter?? Arsenal had all of the ball!  

Also, regarding the game against West Ham - did you watch it? Arsenal had a good few chances and played well. West Ham maybe denied a goal by a dubious offside flag but Arsenal would have come back at them.
Regarding the game at Spurs - you're having a laugh mate. Spurs did have one or two very good chances but we had a hat-full. You must have been watching another game.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Neutral, are you serious?<br />
Let me tell you why Arsenal only managed to &#8216;nick&#8217; a goal in the last few minutes (although they hit the post twice and missed two open goals so anyone with a brain can argue that Rafa&#8217;s &#8216;great plan to beat arsenal&#8217; actually wasn&#8217;t that successful and more down to luck)</p>
<p>It is because Liverpool placed TEN MEN BEHIND THE BALL most of the game, that&#8217;s why. Quite simple isn&#8217;t it? If Liverpool had actually tried to come forward and maybe even used their fullbacks now and then they would have been nailed. If Arsenal had scored first it would have been an interesting match..<br />
So don&#8217;t sit their smug in the belief Liverpool had loads of better chances. Hello? My nan could have great chances against arsenal if they sent EVERYONE forward including the centrebacks! We had bloody Gallas and Toure dribbling in your box! How many times did your central defenders even get out of their own box? Totally pathetic for the home team.</p>
<p>Either way the Arsenal supporters can sleep soundly in the knowledge that their team embarrassed an obviously very frightened and thus negative Liverpool team. And Rafa&#8217;s comment was funny - that he set out to stop Arsenal playing on the counter&#8230; on the counter?? Arsenal had all of the ball!  </p>
<p>Also, regarding the game against West Ham - did you watch it? Arsenal had a good few chances and played well. West Ham maybe denied a goal by a dubious offside flag but Arsenal would have come back at them.<br />
Regarding the game at Spurs - you&#8217;re having a laugh mate. Spurs did have one or two very good chances but we had a hat-full. You must have been watching another game.</p>
<p>G.
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		<title>by: Gooner Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20670</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Is Carragher immune to red cards ?.......he should have been shown 3 in his last 2 games....what a cheating moron.  

We WILL see where Arsenal end up come May - I can't wait, as after that display Liverpool (amongst others) they won't be anywhere near us ,either in the Premiership or the Champions League.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Carragher immune to red cards ?&#8230;&#8230;.he should have been shown 3 in his last 2 games&#8230;.what a cheating moron.  </p>
<p>We WILL see where Arsenal end up come May - I can&#8217;t wait, as after that display Liverpool (amongst others) they won&#8217;t be anywhere near us ,either in the Premiership or the Champions League.
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		<title>by: DeiseGooner</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20655</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20655</guid>
					<description>whatever - just admit that we showed you how to play football. Credit for the defensive performance but surely if pool have ambitions to win the league you ned to be out to win your home games. At least try and win them anyway....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever - just admit that we showed you how to play football. Credit for the defensive performance but surely if pool have ambitions to win the league you ned to be out to win your home games. At least try and win them anyway&#8230;.
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		<title>by: whatever</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20654</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20654</guid>
					<description>I see you're still narrow-minded fellas.

Benitez had a great tactical plan to stop an attacking arsenal in form, and the players executed the plan very well, shame alsono and torres had to go off. Obivously if you have to sub 2 players for injuries the plan is all pretty much to hell with aswell, thats why you got your goal, until then you didnt have much, sure your backline can pass around the ball all you want but alonso masch did a great job in middle and statistics pretty much speaks for itself..if you were so dominant how come we had as many shots as you and twice as many on goals?

You all talk alot of smack but we'll see where you end up in may..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you&#8217;re still narrow-minded fellas.</p>
<p>Benitez had a great tactical plan to stop an attacking arsenal in form, and the players executed the plan very well, shame alsono and torres had to go off. Obivously if you have to sub 2 players for injuries the plan is all pretty much to hell with aswell, thats why you got your goal, until then you didnt have much, sure your backline can pass around the ball all you want but alonso masch did a great job in middle and statistics pretty much speaks for itself..if you were so dominant how come we had as many shots as you and twice as many on goals?</p>
<p>You all talk alot of smack but we&#8217;ll see where you end up in may..
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		<title>by: Wenger's Immortals</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20653</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20653</guid>
					<description>You talk about biased articles (this is an Arsenal website remember) and yet the 'Daily Mail' article is clearly from a Liverpool fan. And it mentions combatting Arsenal - what would have you scousers done if Arsenal scored those two open goals after hitting the post? You were lucky to end the night with a point and you tossers know it.

And Neural, your comment is laughable! Arsenal are top of the league and are the Premierships top scorers (alongside United). And 'nick' a goal at the end of the game? Every commentator said Arsenal's equaliser was totally deserved. Look at the back pages of the newspapers this morning if you can read.

It's been mentioned before but it was a real shame Liverpool scored such an early goal, because if Arsenal got it Liverpool would have been it serious trouble. Unlike Liverpool, we would have gone for the second and with an more open Liverpool we would have punished them.

It was literally Steven Gerrard vs. Arsenal FC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You talk about biased articles (this is an Arsenal website remember) and yet the &#8216;Daily Mail&#8217; article is clearly from a Liverpool fan. And it mentions combatting Arsenal - what would have you scousers done if Arsenal scored those two open goals after hitting the post? You were lucky to end the night with a point and you tossers know it.</p>
<p>And Neural, your comment is laughable! Arsenal are top of the league and are the Premierships top scorers (alongside United). And &#8216;nick&#8217; a goal at the end of the game? Every commentator said Arsenal&#8217;s equaliser was totally deserved. Look at the back pages of the newspapers this morning if you can read.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been mentioned before but it was a real shame Liverpool scored such an early goal, because if Arsenal got it Liverpool would have been it serious trouble. Unlike Liverpool, we would have gone for the second and with an more open Liverpool we would have punished them.</p>
<p>It was literally Steven Gerrard vs. Arsenal FC.
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		<title>by: DeiseGooner</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20651</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20651</guid>
					<description>rowan - liverpool, apparently title contenders, playing at home, and their ambition was to stop arsenal playing and hope to nick a win. Im sorry but thats the tactics we expect to see from Derby and Bolton and not a team supposedly tipped to win the league. 
And the statement &quot;But Liverpool may just have shown the rest how to combat them.&quot; thats nothing new is it. The way to &quot;combat&quot; them is to play 10 behind the ball and hope arsenal are wasteful in front of goal , while hoping to snatch a goal from set pieces.  It relies on hope and luck while showing no ambition to play football. 

Liverpool scored early and then tried to hold onto that lead. Rafa sacrificed both Kyut and Voronin as attackers and used them to stop Sagna and Clichy as an attacking force. He used Mascherano and Alonso to shackle Hleb and Cesc. Then he was relying on the pace of Torres and running from deep from Gerrard to nick a goal. Total case of his tactics trying to nullify as much of arsenals attacking avenues as he could with the hope that either gerrard or torres could win it with the 1 goal. Nearly worked too but yet again arsenal play right to the end and get a goal in last 10 mins. How many is that this season ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rowan - liverpool, apparently title contenders, playing at home, and their ambition was to stop arsenal playing and hope to nick a win. Im sorry but thats the tactics we expect to see from Derby and Bolton and not a team supposedly tipped to win the league.<br />
And the statement &#8220;But Liverpool may just have shown the rest how to combat them.&#8221; thats nothing new is it. The way to &#8220;combat&#8221; them is to play 10 behind the ball and hope arsenal are wasteful in front of goal , while hoping to snatch a goal from set pieces.  It relies on hope and luck while showing no ambition to play football. </p>
<p>Liverpool scored early and then tried to hold onto that lead. Rafa sacrificed both Kyut and Voronin as attackers and used them to stop Sagna and Clichy as an attacking force. He used Mascherano and Alonso to shackle Hleb and Cesc. Then he was relying on the pace of Torres and running from deep from Gerrard to nick a goal. Total case of his tactics trying to nullify as much of arsenals attacking avenues as he could with the hope that either gerrard or torres could win it with the 1 goal. Nearly worked too but yet again arsenal play right to the end and get a goal in last 10 mins. How many is that this season ?
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		<title>by: Harry Barracuda</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20650</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;In response 2 hhatever……if u wasted 3 minutes on this article, why respond 3 times? I have seen liverpool play the GREATEST FOOTBALL……but that was the 1970’s /80’s……&quot;

The greatest football? The reason Liverpool fell apart in the 80s was the abolition of the fucking BACK PASS.

And they're still defensive long ball merchants now.

Crap to watch last night, and the fact there are scousers here bleating in defence of it shows how sad it is. Cup football in a league match. That's why they won't win it (again).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In response 2 hhatever……if u wasted 3 minutes on this article, why respond 3 times? I have seen liverpool play the GREATEST FOOTBALL……but that was the 1970’s /80’s……&#8221;</p>
<p>The greatest football? The reason Liverpool fell apart in the 80s was the abolition of the fucking BACK PASS.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;re still defensive long ball merchants now.</p>
<p>Crap to watch last night, and the fact there are scousers here bleating in defence of it shows how sad it is. Cup football in a league match. That&#8217;s why they won&#8217;t win it (again).
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		<title>by: rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.afc4life.co.uk/2007/10/28/ultra-negative-liverpool-still-cant-stop-arsenal/#comment-20648</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>'The need was for a player who thought a good game, rather than fought one and Rafa Benitez, in his infinite wisdom, decided that was the cue for Steven Gerrard to come off the pitch. 

As the Liverpool manager attempted to explain — following a pulsating derby win over Everton — that he wanted a more cerebral presence in midfield for the last half-hour, after the opposition had been reduced to 10 men
Someone who listened to his head more than his heart. 

The furore over one of the most contentious rulings of his three-year reign was only just subsiding when Benitez took his seat in the dug-out at Anfield yesterday, but one thing soon became clear. His line of thinking may not always endear him to others, but it applies to himself as well as his players. 

Liverpool needed a manager who used his head for the visit of Arsene Wenger's latest brand of Invincibles and were served as well as at any time since the studious Spaniard replaced Gerard Houllier. 

There have been times in the last few weeks when the man who disrupted the long established order in Spain by winning two La Liga titles with Valencia looked to be losing his touch, if not the plot. 

From the baffling decision to leave Fernando Torres on the bench against Birmingham in order to save him for a Carling Cup start at Reading three days later, to his failure to guard against complacency in an alarming home Champions League defeat by Marseille, Benitez has found his methods questioned like never before. 

Another reversal against Besiktas in Istanbul on Wednesday has left the five times European champions on the brink of elimination but, if misgivings over Benitez are beginning to surface, they were exposed as wholly misplaced by an overdue return to his tactical best against previously unstoppable Arsenal. 

Should a Flair Play League ever see the light of day, there would surely be only one winner. Arsenal would run rings around the opposition, just as they currently do on a weekly basis. Most neutrals would join in the applause for a team who eclipse even Manchester United as the game's great entertainers. 

Not the hard-nosed Benitez, though. Sensing some opponents were standing back and admiring Arsenal's artistry as much as any diehard Gooner, his priority was to draft a masterplan unashamedly designed to stifle a style that weaves intricate passing moves the length of the pitch at breakneck speed. 

He could — and did — reason that the inclusion of Fernando Torres as a spearhead, flanked by Dirk Kuyt on the right and Andriy Voronin on the left, signalled Liverpool's attacking intent. The argument was further reinforced by the sight of Gerrard being given licence to charge forward from the centre of midfield, but this was no blueprint for throwing caution to the wind. 

Goals may be their stock in trade, but the job requirements for Kuyt and Voronin also demanded keeping a watching brief on the offensive instincts of Emmanuel Eboue and Gael Clichy, so often a key element of Arsenal's attacking armoury. 

Behind Gerrard, Javier Mascherano and Xabi Alonso were under orders to deny Cesc Fabregas and Tomas Rosicky the space they use to such devastating effect and, as with every detail of a carefully devised game plan, instructions were followed to the letter. 

Arsenal may remain unrivalled exponents of the quickfire, one-touch approach. But Liverpool may just have shown the rest how to combat them. In front of Sir Alex Ferguson, too. There was the faintest of smiles on his face as he left. 

- From Daily Mail. That is a well written article not like your shower of shite!
No wonder you write for crap like this rather than a decent website!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The need was for a player who thought a good game, rather than fought one and Rafa Benitez, in his infinite wisdom, decided that was the cue for Steven Gerrard to come off the pitch. </p>
<p>As the Liverpool manager attempted to explain — following a pulsating derby win over Everton — that he wanted a more cerebral presence in midfield for the last half-hour, after the opposition had been reduced to 10 men<br />
Someone who listened to his head more than his heart. </p>
<p>The furore over one of the most contentious rulings of his three-year reign was only just subsiding when Benitez took his seat in the dug-out at Anfield yesterday, but one thing soon became clear. His line of thinking may not always endear him to others, but it applies to himself as well as his players. </p>
<p>Liverpool needed a manager who used his head for the visit of Arsene Wenger&#8217;s latest brand of Invincibles and were served as well as at any time since the studious Spaniard replaced Gerard Houllier. </p>
<p>There have been times in the last few weeks when the man who disrupted the long established order in Spain by winning two La Liga titles with Valencia looked to be losing his touch, if not the plot. </p>
<p>From the baffling decision to leave Fernando Torres on the bench against Birmingham in order to save him for a Carling Cup start at Reading three days later, to his failure to guard against complacency in an alarming home Champions League defeat by Marseille, Benitez has found his methods questioned like never before. </p>
<p>Another reversal against Besiktas in Istanbul on Wednesday has left the five times European champions on the brink of elimination but, if misgivings over Benitez are beginning to surface, they were exposed as wholly misplaced by an overdue return to his tactical best against previously unstoppable Arsenal. </p>
<p>Should a Flair Play League ever see the light of day, there would surely be only one winner. Arsenal would run rings around the opposition, just as they currently do on a weekly basis. Most neutrals would join in the applause for a team who eclipse even Manchester United as the game&#8217;s great entertainers. </p>
<p>Not the hard-nosed Benitez, though. Sensing some opponents were standing back and admiring Arsenal&#8217;s artistry as much as any diehard Gooner, his priority was to draft a masterplan unashamedly designed to stifle a style that weaves intricate passing moves the length of the pitch at breakneck speed. </p>
<p>He could — and did — reason that the inclusion of Fernando Torres as a spearhead, flanked by Dirk Kuyt on the right and Andriy Voronin on the left, signalled Liverpool&#8217;s attacking intent. The argument was further reinforced by the sight of Gerrard being given licence to charge forward from the centre of midfield, but this was no blueprint for throwing caution to the wind. </p>
<p>Goals may be their stock in trade, but the job requirements for Kuyt and Voronin also demanded keeping a watching brief on the offensive instincts of Emmanuel Eboue and Gael Clichy, so often a key element of Arsenal&#8217;s attacking armoury. </p>
<p>Behind Gerrard, Javier Mascherano and Xabi Alonso were under orders to deny Cesc Fabregas and Tomas Rosicky the space they use to such devastating effect and, as with every detail of a carefully devised game plan, instructions were followed to the letter. </p>
<p>Arsenal may remain unrivalled exponents of the quickfire, one-touch approach. But Liverpool may just have shown the rest how to combat them. In front of Sir Alex Ferguson, too. There was the faintest of smiles on his face as he left. </p>
<p>- From Daily Mail. That is a well written article not like your shower of shite!<br />
No wonder you write for crap like this rather than a decent website!
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