Comments on: Who’s Having The Last Laugh Now Arsene?

by: Billy

Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:57 +0000

As a supporter of the club I’d love to see us win the Title again and it frustrates me that we haven’t won it in a few years, it also frustrates me that ( forget transfers ) we can hardly seem to keep hold of our best players, but !
Man U, Choilsea, Liverpool and even Totenscum although they are spending ludicrous millions on new players, are also ignoring the international financial market place and that makes less sense than Arsene’s perspective.
Arsene is forgoing footballing glory for the long term stability and inevitable success of Arsenal FC and that is remarkable in of itself, if only our players were as loyal to the cause as that. In the long run Arsenal will be the biggest club in the Premier League because we will be the only club running at a profit in the top 4.
When the market crashes, and it will within two years, teams like Man U, Choilsea, totenscum and Liverpool will be lucky to keep their stadiums let alone world class footballers notwithstanding that the political freaks decide to reduce world numbers by manufacturing ( through behind the doors closed meetings ) world war 3 in order to reduce world population by half in order to preserve global resources and their vested interest in those resources, in a time where water can be used to fuel cars and industry and where zero point energy and the technology to utilize it is a reality the last thing that concerns me now is our transfer budget.

by: king gooner

Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:26:21 +0000

GELBS-you are withoubt a doubt a complete & utter f***ck wit- a sad .depressing one at that-iv,e no doubt had wenger pulled off a miracle last year (against all odds) you would have topped yourself!shame!would have done us all a favour-listen to yourself boy!you sound worste than the most rabid neanderthal spud/manure fan & that,s as low as it can get….

by: Ole Gunner

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:08:05 +0000

We live in a superficial age, in which the President of France’s life is like a reality show, football players are disloyal and the press no longer care about publishing fact.

That’s why so many can’t see the obvious: Arsene Wenger might not buy expensive but he buys quality. 4 Arsenal players in team of the year last season, the most expensive of which cost £7 million. United’s 3 cost £50 million and Liverpool’s two cost £20 million.

IT IS NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU SPEND: IT IS ABOUT ACQUIRING QUALITY. That’s what Arsene does.

We haven’t won a trophy in 3 years, but we could have won the league last year and had our first Champs League final 2 years ago. DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK WINNING THE CARLING CUP OR FA CUP WOULD HAVE BEEN A HUGE DIFFERENCE, AND WENGER WOULD THEN HAVE BEEN A SUCCESS?

Alan Hansen knows less about football about my dog and I take offense to you saying he was right. Only one team can win the Premier League, so if I say United for example won’t win the league, I have a 95% probability of a “correct prediction”.

The fact is that HANSEN was wrong in thinking Arsenal couldn’t compete last season. They competed and lost by 4 points.

by: El Tel

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:09:56 +0000

Gelbs has a point and so do the guys who call Wenger a Messiah.
My problem is that Wenger can teach/coach football at the top table but as a Manager he makes to many mistakes during gameplay. Arsenal always seem to play with one man short, Eboue in most cases and the likes of Hoyte and Almunia in others.

We have the Chavs and Mancscum on the rack and then he makes a change that lets them overpower us, this happens time and time again. Brum away we were cruising and 10 before the end he goes defensive which we don’t do very well, this invited them on and we all know the consequences. Same at Chavski, Pool away CL ect. We gave the title away at home to Pool in the League because he gambled on the CL, he picked a piss poor team at a time when they had a second string out too.

The Barca CL final was ours with minutes left and he takes off the knackered Cesc who was one of the few who could hold onto the ball and burn up time.

I think the fans are fed up with the lies and bluff he plays on everyone. Would Gelbs be happy if Wenger appointed his successor NOW and tutored him to play the Arsenal way, this person could also tell Wenger when he thinks a wrong decision in gameplay is happening and give a second opinion.

I think Wenger has given us a taste of the good stuff but it ends up being a tease. We all want to win and a couple of years is ok but any more and we will be back to starting again.

I want new faces and they don’t have to be Superstars but good players who will make a difference.

Wenger is losing the players and looks like he will lose the fans if he doesn’t get it right.

by: Joel Cairo

Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:25:23 +0000

What EPL were you watching last year? Was it the one where Arsenal, with a bunch of nobodies, and several new players bought for not very much almost took the whole show? Or was it the one where Arsenal, plugging along under the verbal fog of Arsene Wenger, failed again to show anything? Was it the one where Arsenal passed and passed and played pretty football but could not score, or the one where Arsenal scored the second most goals in the EPL? Was it the one where Arsenal, having spent less than 20 million on transfers the prior season and having lost Henry and Ljunberg, failed to catch the dominant ManU, who spent like a “big” club, or was it the one where Arsenal improved 13 points while losing Henry, while ManU improved 2 points, spurred on by the most wasteful and profligate set of forwards in the EPL? Its easy to score 30 goals when you take almost 200 shots. Compare that with Arsenal’s chief striker, who scored 24 on 110? Rio cost 33M? How about Sagna? Who would you rather have next year, or, more importantly, in three years?

Are you being deliberately opaque, or do you have a view of the world which ignores what really happened?

Let me ask you, are Sagna and Eduardo world class talent? Is Adebayor? Is Clichy? Are they not all 20 million plus players? So why are you unhappy that Wenger finds a way to put multi-million pound world class players on the pitch who lack only one thing — the annointment of a big money transfer? How ridiculously stupid.

by: Robert

Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:10:23 +0000

While I feel Gelbs views are over the top he does have a point.

The opinion of Arsene Wenger in the eyes of Arsenal fans is quite astounding. Hell, I’ve been the victim of it since he joined; the man is a genius, he is a messiah.

And he is. But that doesn’t mean he can’t do anything wrong.

I hate Arsenal fans who get all defensive went people raise even the slightest question on Arsene’s ideas and policies. Surely Arsene would be the first person to say he wasn’t perfect, yet everyone seems to think he is.

I know Wenger has been fantastic for the club. I know that he is probably the greatest Arsenal manager of all time. But that does not mean he is untouchable and doesn’t make mistakes.

The arguement gets even more pathetic when fans come out and say things like “well you couldn’t do better!”. Well that’s pretty obvious. You could say the exact same thing if Wenger got Arsenal relegated. I’m not a manager, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t someone else out there who couldn’t do a better job.

I just think Wenger has taken Arsenal as far as they can. Don’t forget, he has bought pretty big in the past to good effect (World Cup Winners Gilberto and Henry, Sylvain Wiltord, Marc Overmars, Lauren and even Reyes - he was excellent for 12 months) but seems to take less risks as the years pass by.

And before everyone says Ferguson bought the title he’s won it with kids ages ago. The difference between Wenger and Ferguson is that Fergie has had sustained success while Arsene hasn’t.

by: Pyrovolitis

Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:20:23 +0000

Glebs, you are a moron. You cannot spell. You are pathetic.

by: gunner712004

Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:53:55 +0000

some people talk a load of crap
pre -wenger i remember standing on the clock end watching a 1-0 defeat to wimbledon, if anyone says wenger isnt a genius then they can fuck off to spuds where they surely spend a lot of time.
the transfer merry go round hasnt even started yet and people have written the season off
take a look at the accounts of the club to see what arsene is up against, sure he cannot say it but there is not an endless pot to spend, but spend he will.
we were so close last season, a season that 95% of all proper supporters would die for for their team
we are attracting some proper cunts to the emirates these days

by: Jason

Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:49:20 +0000

I agree with everything Vivas said. Read his first comment again. Every Arsenal supporter needs to relax and let Wenger do his business without the crazy media spectulation. Both Sagna and Eduardo came out of nowhere last summer…

by: dan

Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:45:28 +0000

This article is genuine. We can see the beginning of a problem at AFC in terms of future trophies. Now, Arsene knows what to do but, as he has stated, the transfer market has been ruined by the prodigious sums one or two clubs are happy to pay. Now smaller clubs are holding out and demanding ridiculous sums for un-established players. Huntelaar for example, is routinely mentioned by the media speculating a move. But his club is asking for the moon, and why not, they’re in a win-win situation. If he goes then they get a huge sum, if he stays they keep a quality player. The likely result is that he stays where he is another season, and contrary to fergie’s view there will be less transfer activity this summer, not more. Another example, Veloso, who didn’t feature for Portugal at euros are asking 20 million quid. Veloso has qualities, but he’s no scoring threat, he’s not the finished article, as such this sum is badly miscalculated. Now these clubs, who can’t make any sense, leave it to us to make some sense of what’s happening. Any club who grossly overprices it’s players, which include most clubs these days are telling the marketplace that their player is not interested in a move to Arsenal. Why? Because Wenger’s reputation and transfer policy are well established, AFC doesn’t pay stupid money, any self respecting club knows this well, as should any player interested in playing for us. If a player wants to join AFC two things must happen, he’s priced right and he keen to play and succeed at AFC.
Now, to be fair and comprehensive, as Vieira has stated, we’ve had to review our pay structure and with our vital players we certainly have, but at AFC the players must earn their pay. It is entirely misplaced that Ade demand an Henri level salary after one good season. Henri was 29 and he earned it, Ade at 24 years is either developing a massive ego problem or is on the receiving end of some horribly bad advice. Ade, let me help you, one off-season at Milan and you’re on the bench, later to be shipped out to a smaller club with no ambition left to wonder where it all went wrong, someday, maybe you’ll make it back ala Anelska, but past your prime and not much to show for your ‘lost years’. Stay at AFC, stay humble, work hard, earn it, be a leader and help grow the club.
Back to the main point. So now what’s Wenger left with? Well, a youth policy only gets you so far, and as he’s stated some time ago ‘the club could benefit from experienced proven talent’. What does experienced talent mean? It means world class players who can calm the youngsters, solid role models on and off the pitch, are not intimidated by other big players, can rise to any occasion, and are determined to win and likely have won a lot. Will these players cost extra, sure, because they’ve earned it as have their clubs by keeping faith and a sound relationship between the two.
Things change, and to reclaim trophies AFC must also change and adapt to a market that is silly by paying a bit more but not compromising our principle beliefs. As Arsene knows better than most, if the price goes up the risk goes up and with all the ‘rotten mercenary’ players out there who exhibit little gratitude and loyalty beyond hollow press statements, the vetting process just has to be more than thorough. Which, I believe, brings us to where we are and why things are taking so long. Wenger can spot a talent, no question, but what of the players desire to play for AFC? Therein lies the major hurdle to signing experienced talent. Spending big sums and then players leave for whatever reason(Reyes got scared of rain), and far earlier than hoped. We must only sign such players determined to succeed at AFC, fact is such players are harder to find these days. If a player and club are just shopping around for money, ala’ Arshavin, Huntelaar, Veloso, and de la Red(who, btw, looks like my sister only prettier), these are not the ones AFC need. The player must have a dream to play at AFC. To players one and all, come to AFC with love for our football, come with class, and if you earn it, we’ll gladly pay. And if you’ve established yourself as world class we’ll pay for that too(we’re not poor just smart).